Tuesday, May 23, 2006

DaVinci Code Comments

Christians, please get over yourselves. What *exactly* do you find so offensive about this film? The idea that there may be some bad priests? I guess you haven't been following the pedophilia scandal. Or is it the idea that Jesus was just a man? Okay then - prove otherwise. You can't, can you?

Frankly, you did it to yourselves with all this nonsense about "faith". If you could prove that your own beliefs were true, then it would be obvious to everyone that the DaVinci Code is false. But you can't, so this is what you get.

In the old days, you'd have burnt Dan Brown at the stake. And now you have the gall to pretend that YOU are the ones being persectuted. Grow up!


At 10:12 AM, Blogger Virginia aka Ginny said...

I have yet to see the movie. I am undecided if I need to bother finding out what some groups are so up in arms over. Have you seen the movie? Is it a good flick?

At 10:31 AM, Blogger Jeff Dee said...

I've seen it three times, and I liked it a lot. Not the greatest film of all time, but very solid.

At 8:41 PM, Blogger Paul said...

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At 8:50 PM, Blogger John said...

Ah, but Jeff, when someone re-writes the actual historical background, it sort of makes you think you are being bashed, you know?

For instance, on p.125 of Dan Brown's book, he claims 5 million women where killed by Christians for heresy.

I'm sure he means spread out over time, but the sad truth is there is no evidence that such a holocaust ever occured.

And believe me, the people who dislike Christianity have always existed - but there is no credible source I have ever heard that even suggests this hysteria.

If you want facts - get 'em.

But don't go building the "factual" background of an entire work of fiction on name-calling and shoddy arguments.

It makes you look stupid. And lazy.

What, Dan Brown writes a work of fiction 2000 years after an event and he's credible - but the men who actually lived in that culture and time and experienced it are suddenly not?

Before reading a work of fiction, at least read four books of faith - Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

Or at least the letters - written by an angry ex-Pharisee named Paul.

*sheesh* You'd think Christians made this up so we COULD get eaten alive by lions, stoned to death, etc.

What a revisionist dope.

NEXT MOVIE: Abraham Lincoln was GAY! And Thomas Jefferson was Muslim!

Frankly Jeff I like your bile - at least I expect nothing but anger from you. But to actually PUBLISH and do such BAD research is an insult to YOUR belief system.

You are still a rationalist, right?

At 9:20 PM, Blogger Jeff Dee said...

Ah, but John, when someone posts a response to my blog under one name, then deletes it and re-posts an edited version under another name, it sort of makes them look like a troll.

The Da Vinci Code is a book of FICTION, dumbass. Of course, so's the Bible. It's okay if works of fiction aren't historically accurate, as long as nobody mistakes them for fact. Like you do, for example.

At 10:02 PM, Blogger JDM said...

It's funny. I go to a Catholic Mass every saturday evening, largely to keep my aging parents happy, but I don't believe half of what I hear. Last saturday the sermon boiled down to "Christianity is Under Attack!" Of course, if you were to drive around Tallahassee before 2000 you would be hard pressed to find a single billboard mentioning Jesus, God, or Christianity. Now you'd be lucky to drive a five miles without encountering one. We've had corporate churches moving into strip malls, and even something called GenesisChurch.tv broadcasting from a public school gym on the weekends. That can't be legal. The fact is that Christianity has never been more popular, and is far from being under attack.

I think, what irks Christians about the Da Vinci code is that they need something to be irked about, an enemy to rally the army around. It's like the new right wing crusade to turn the middle-east conflict into WWIII. Hell, I was saying this before we went into Iraq; however, I was saying it as a caution. These people - they don't really want WWIII, but they do want the power of solidarity which comes from people faced by a world war, and they are willing to risk WWIII in order to get it.

Modern Christians extol love and peace, yet they feed on anger, rage and combativeness. I mean, Jeff, look at John's comment (aside from his request that we read four books about Jesus which are notorious for their conflicts of factual data, and other buffoonery). He likes bile. Personally I prefer pepperoni on my pizza, but to each his own.

Oh yeah, you'll love this. I just remembered the sermon from before last saturday. Get this, my pastor - while advocating peace and not violence - sermonized about how he admired the passion and self-sacrifice of Islamic Extremists, citing acts of terrorism for examples of the dedication he only wished he could get from us.

Enter your favorite expletetive here :-)

I don't think there is anything wrong with being Christian, except for having to deal with all the others out there who call themselves Christian, and then sound off about what it means without thinking about what they say.


At 8:57 AM, Blogger Fred Trellis said...

Hi Jeff.
You asked this q also in an earlier podcast - and I didn't have time to write then. Why does DVC get Xians knickers in a twist?

The background radiation of Christianity means that growing up in England - I was continually drip-fed Xianity. Christmas & manger, school assemblies, we even had officially-scheduled lessons. So I got to hear the nicey-goody message, and being not particularly interested, never investigated it further.

Reading the DVC (quite early) rocked my socks off. I had never heard a dissenting voice, a contrary opinion. Suddenly i was presented with at least someone offering an alternative.

OK, it is fiction, but it reads in places like non-fiction - I didn't like the book very much because it seemed to be written as a series of historical lessons, glued together by occasional passages of crappy thriller.

It opened my eyes, is all I can say. And that thrust me into research culminating in declaring myself and atheist, and being an avid listener to the non-prophets and atheist experience podcasts, and also a contributor "full of bile and sarcasm" on www.apologetics.com, and Robert Ingersoll fan and all the rest.

This is what the church fears. People with no interest, but just a mild tolerance for the background radiation, are suddenly being told Xtianity is a pack of lies, protected by some evil acts. Which is darn near the truth. And with 40+million copies sold, that messages is reaching a wider audience than they would like.

Even if it is fiction, and badly researched, and twisted historical facts, it has the potential to wake people up, as it did me.

Best regards, Fred.

At 12:59 PM, Blogger Kergillian said...

Hey Jeff!

I can't say I was impressed with DaVinci code. I thought the book was just okay but the movie bored me. The only reason I saw it was to mock the protester. I was hoping to mock protesters, but only one guy showed up to protest the movie and I'm not sure he even spoke english. Sigh...

I miss the days of Mocking the God Squad behind Wells Hall.

Take care!
-Jim Stryker

At 12:59 PM, Blogger Kergillian said...

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At 10:47 AM, Blogger ExMachina said...

Hey Jeff,

This has nothing to do with this particular post. Only wanted to say that I stumbled across your site recently. I loved you as an artist growing up with TSR, and now have a whole new reason to appreciate you!

At 6:16 PM, Blogger UrbanBarbarian said...

Hey Jeff, I'm not sure how regularly you check this blog, but I wanted to say "hi" [ as I seem to do every few years or so ]. Like "ExMachina", I am and always will be a fan of your RPG illustration work.

You're a legend, sir!

PS - I liked the book better than the movie...

At 5:44 AM, Blogger Jeff Dee said...

Thanks, Urban. As you guessed, I don't check in very often lately. I check my MySpace page a wee bit more often. Hopefully I'll have more free time for both of them next year.

For what it's worth, I liked the movie better than the book :)


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